<New Website: Upper Green SideThe Oil Drum: LocalGoldman Likes Wind. The Kennedys and DoD Don't?>

16 comments on Indian Point Nuclear or LNG

Comments can no longer be added to this story.

AlanfromBigEasy on June 20, 2006 - 2:53pm Permalink | Subthread | Comments top
There is an assumption here which I do not think is valid.  That NY can source enough LNG to replace Indian Point nukes AND be able to pay for it.

Japan gets half of it's LNG from Indonesia.  They have been told that existing contracts will not be renewed in 2008 & 2010 since NG is needed domestically in Indonesia.

UK is facing an electricity/NG crisis of epic proportions.  TOD-UK sees 2014 (+ or -) as the "crunch time" when the UK cannot afford/get the LNG it needs.

East Canada is talking about importing LNG from Russia.   We will need what we LNG we can import for home heating and high value manufacturing.

Peak World Gas is looming.

The dollar's value is "not certain" going forward due to our massive trade deficits (-$300 billion for oil today, -$800 billion overall, add LNG, higher oil prices, etc.)

Think 2020, 2025.  Do you want Indian Point on or off-line then ?

0
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
Glenn on June 20, 2006 - 3:44pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I think we will want the option to turn it up (or maybe just turn it back on) when and if necessary. I think we should have as many different options that could scale-up if necessary. I see starting LNG as a pretty good way of expanding that portfolio.

I think NY is going to need some nuclear long into the future, just maybe not so close to 25 million people.

Unfortunately if we do neither, we are just going to burn more coal or face rolling blackouts.

0
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
AlanfromBigEasy on June 20, 2006 - 10:47pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Maintaining a nuclear power plant in a "Ready" condition is fairly expensive.  "Ready" as in operational within, say, 6 months of a decision to go ahead.  Staff need to be kept ready, equipment tested, inventory in good shape and so forth.
0
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
DarkDawg on November 13, 2006 - 4:06pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
This is the most credible statement in this entire thread.  Remember, most political buzzwords today regard freeing the US from it's dependence on foreign oil.  Ok, so how does switching off Indian Point and importing LNG accomplish this goal?  Not to mention the fact that like this poster says, it will be just as expensive if not moreso to import LNG going forward as transportation costs go up and supplies go way down.  No, LNG is not going to save NY by any means.  It just delays the inevitable and is a very poor investment which keeps us dependent on foreign energy sources.  The only investment worth making is in homegrown nuclear or renewable solutions.  
0
Comments can no longer be added to this story.