How weird is this post? NYC is "local" to the folks who live there. And human beings have been trading food and other things over pretty long distances for at least 8000 years -- long before anyone thought it was fashionable to worry about "sustainability."

The difference is the scale of things.

A few thousand people living in a big forest and fishing the rivers don't make much of an impact -- might even contribute positively to the overall balance of things. When any species becomes totally dominant, then balance fails.

Human beings have become destructively over-dominant. And it appears we can't reason ourselves off the peak, so we will just have to all slide down. Too bad.

Yeah,,,I thought so..NIH(not invented here)..so goodbye..it didn't last long.

Sorry but I have nothing further to add to 'nothing on the screen for New Yawkers.

Yep us out here in forest and down trading hides on the riverbanks..we don't know reality do we? Not the New Yawk reality. Glad that I don't.

BTW when it said LOCAL then I thought perhaps MORE than NYC..I must be wrong.

Back to your local programming.

Hey guys, as you can see I'm the only one writing anything for TOD Local and I'm from NYC. Deal with it. Send in your fully completed html posts anytime.

At first I thought you were as snarky as me, but you were not. The truth is, most people see history through a pretty thick filter of the modern trade paradigm. People have not been trading 'food' for thousands of years. Up until the last 100 years or so, most food has been local, and travelers found food along the way. Only petroleum (mostly) transport has made long-distance food possible. Long distance trade in the past was always for hard goods or dried spices.

I will leave a less cranky bit of off-the-cuff data in the main thread...cheers.